Posts by Anony Mous

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It begins norway no money for wt because of shunning

by Yomama in

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organized shunning will stop when money stops.

Anony Mous

It doesn’t seem they are losing their charity status or anything else. In Norway, tax money pays churches for existing.

Basically Norway was giving JWs millions per year to simply exist as a religion. This wasn’t a tax break, this was a donation, which was then sent off to the US.

And I agree, if the giver doesn’t agree where his donations are going, they don’t have to be given. I do disagree with the whole notion that church and state should not be separated or that the state can decide what a church should or should not be saying.

My question is why the WTBTS would even accept this money, it’s clearly a payment that makes an organization become dependent or subservient to the state.

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Call me Suspicious, but ...

by Simon in

when the president is going somewhere to talk about an infrastructure bill, and wants support for ever more endless spending, some of which is for bridge reconstruction, having a bridge collapse on the very day and in the very place he's going just seems "too perfect", doesn't it?.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60173771.

Anony Mous

Obama did the same, right as election started a bridge collapsed triggering a major refocus into infrastructure. Then when Republicans tried to slow spending in 2011 he pointed at it, even though the bridge didn’t collapse due to lack of maintenance, it was revealed later that the bridge collapsed likely due to design flaws.

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What is your IQ? Does it Matter?

by Sea Breeze in

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i had an aunt that had rheumatic fever as a child and only had an iq the high 70's.

but, absolutely no one was able to bs her on an emotional level.

she had an uncanny ability to see through people's bs.

Anony Mous

IQ is an important measure to see how well people solve logical and mathematical puzzles. But it doesn’t mean you are learned. And the opposite is true as well, just because you are learned, doesn’t mean you have high IQ or are smart (look at all the PhDs that tell you how to live your life these days).

I work with very smart people and people that pretend they are smart. Almost everyone in my friend and colleague circles has a doctorate, some even more than one but I would not rate their IQ equally high across the board, there are truly some “dumb” professors, that don’t get the logic regardless of how you explain it.

The EQ rate is complete horsemanure, it is a made up measure for HR folks. Did you know the Myers-Briggs score was completely made up by a mother and daughter, no training whatsoever they just made it up one afternoon as a joke based on their friends; every personality on those measures is interchangeable.

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Ukraine - Nato - US crisis

by mikeflood in

don't understand....but this crisis in ukraine seems to be getting out of control....i mean, everybody knows how to start a war..... by the way, as always, people at the borg are having a field day.....

Anony Mous

@slimboyfat: the pipeline was previously shut down by a fella named Trump. It’s being built by Americans since they are the only ones that have the technology to properly build in that particular location (deep sea in a geologically active area). When the Americans stopped building, Russians tried to finish it and caused a small ecological disaster (toxic grease on Baltic beaches) because their equipment is just not capable of doing it properly causing everyone in the area to tell them to stop. Not only that but the Russian produced basically a pile of junk and bolted it together, but it would have been dangerous to pump at capacity without the thing blowing up based on their shoddy work, some people were giving them 1-3 years before it would fail.

Russia and Iran talks big game, but their primary tanks (T72) are still an average 50 years old (Israel famously killed 30 Iranian tanks with just 1 of theirs in the 90s, similar the US in the Gulf War made scrap metal out of them), infrastructure building like pipeline boats is also from the last century, Iran’s navy is basically a bunch of speed boats and Russian navy has submarines that are so old, they occasionally end up on the bottom of the ocean without even being in combat. They do have numbers and willpower though so an urban combat landwar would be problematic.

The biggest question for Ukraine is whether the US would get involved, it seems like Biden doesn’t want to (I’m assuming after the Hillary hacking affair, Putin may have a bit of dirt up his sleeve) so Ukraine would have to fend for itself. If the US does get involved, not even a modernized China would want to cross that line, let alone Russia.

Germany doesn’t want to get involved because they’re dependent on Russian coal, gas and oil. Take that away and Germany basically has to shut down half the country because their wind and solar plants don’t work at night or when it’s not windy or too windy or when it’s cloudy (which is like 200 days of the year over there) and they shut down all their nuke plants as well.

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Coercion at its worst: religious mandated shunning

by Yomama in

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by patrick haeck any comments on article?.

Anony Mous

Here is the thing, in Europe, a government CAN demand that you do or don’t say certain things, in that sense Patrick is right; if your government can mandate a better treatment of others, then they should do so, whatever the basis is they use to mandate the right to demand you don’t disparage Islam or gays or people with perceived gender disorder, they can also mandate that you don’t disparage exJWs.

In the end those types of societies and laws end up with a segregated society, the exact thing they say they intend to prevent. You also end up with logical contradictions in law, such as you can’t disparage exJWs but saying that the faith of Islam/JW are evil is also disparaging.

However, I disagree that it is a human right, you can’t mandate a right. A right is the absence of government regulation.

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Ukraine - Nato - US crisis

by mikeflood in

don't understand....but this crisis in ukraine seems to be getting out of control....i mean, everybody knows how to start a war..... by the way, as always, people at the borg are having a field day.....

Anony Mous

The history of American involvement in Latin America and Middle East and Asia is a story of making the best choice out of 2 bad options. You either get a corrupt autocrat or a murderous communist/jihadist in power. Either way you’re going to get criticism.

It is also an example of what happens when the US doesn’t get involved or listen to its left-wing base for foreign policy, that’s how you end up with communist Cuba, Venezuela, China etc, always the same story whether it was JFK or LBJ or Jimmy Carter or Bush Jr. or Obama, when you ignore (or try to appease) people with communist or theocratic origins or tendencies because you don’t like conflict (like Putin today) you get bad results.

Ukraine has been relatively stable and democratic after the Soviets fell. And I wouldn’t trust Putin to just be nice and take his troops away. After Afghanistan China, Russia and Iran smelled blood in the water. They’re not going to be nice and wait another 3 years for another President. I can see them invading Israel, Taiwan and Ukraine as soon as they get an opportunity and America’s commander in chief will sit there and put sanctions on an ever shrinking free world.

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Ukraine - Nato - US crisis

by mikeflood in

don't understand....but this crisis in ukraine seems to be getting out of control....i mean, everybody knows how to start a war..... by the way, as always, people at the borg are having a field day.....

Anony Mous

@slimboyfat: the reason is purely economical. Ukraine currently controls the flow of gas and oil between Europe and Russia and even some parts of the Middle East like Afghanistan. Same reason they invaded Georgia under Bush and Ukraine under Obama - a weak America means nothing will be done about it.

Russia and Germany wanted to build Nordstream 2 pipeline to evade Ukraine control (and thus cost) over the fuel, because after Germany’s green energy policy failed, they became highly dependent on Russian fuel. Trump successfully stopped the development of the pipeline, which caused Putin to cease his progress into Ukraine which he started under Obama. Biden restarted the pipeline on behalf of Germany and is letting them finish the pipeline, at that point Ukraine will be completely cut off from any leverage in Europe and thus Russia can easily invade and reclaim their Soviet empire.

There is a lot at play, Ukraine and the Dnieper, their major river, are a major highway of fuel and goods between Russia the Mediterranean, China (through the Black Sea) and Europe. Russia is basically claiming and threatening the entire area that goes their side of the Dnieper as Russian, that would give Russia effectively full control over the Dnieper.

Control over Ukraine means control over EU, UK, Russia and all the goods flowing from Asia and the Middle East to those countries, it’s one of the reasons Ukraine never became a NATO/EU member, it’s simply got enough leverage without them, joining them has requirements that would lose them control.

Geography is really good for agriculture as well and one of the reasons why Stalin targeted and eradicated the Ukrainians, killing village by village during the Holodomor and then moved tons of Russians in to farm after the Lenin farm policies failed resulting in mass starvation across the rest of the Soviet Union. Hence why currently there are a lot of cultural Russians in the disputed areas of Ukraine, because Stalin ethnically cleansed the area and relocated half of Siberia to Ukraine.

So there is very good reason for Ukraine to exist, it is the gateway from Europe and Russia to the world. The EU is too cowardly to do anything about it, and now the US is too.

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Who Restarted the Cold War?

by proplog2 in

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that's the title of this opinion piece by pat buchannan.

daniel 11:40 says and in the time of [the] end the king of the south will engage with him in a pushing, and against him the king of the north will storm with chariots and with horsemen and with many ships; and he will certainly enter into the lands and flood over and pass through.".

some translations say "battle" instead of "pushing".

Anony Mous

Russia doesn’t really have the power of the Soviet Union, they are a relatively small country, smaller in military strength than Iran for example and very much dependent on their old satellite states that are now independent nations. Not sure why people still care about them that much, Putin just makes himself look bigger than he is and the US for most of the time (under Obama and Biden) is simply letting him by taking down sanctions by their respective predecessors.

Biden allowing Nordstream 2 to go forward was basically the end for Ukraine as it bypasses their control on oil from Russia to Europe, Biden did it to please Germany that due to their own failed energy programs have become wholly dependent on Russia. Obama did the same when he said that Russia is no longer our Cold War enemy but instead was our friend, refused to help Ukraine and Russia simply invaded because he was afraid of another conflict.

Russia never changed, Putin is a result of the KGB, they lost their satellite states but for all intents and purposes they still have ambitions to restart an empire.

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Tennis Controversy in Australia

by smiddy3 in

apr 20, 2020. novak djokovic sparks a backlash after publicly opposing the covid-19 vaccine.

he says: “personally, i am opposed to vaccination, and i wouldn’t want to be forced by someone to take a vaccine in order to be able to travel.”.

asked by sky news australia anchor danica de giorgio why djokovic was granted the visa in the first place, the home affairs minister said: “they’re entirely separate processes”.. “to gain entry to australia you need both – you actually need the visa, which is determined quite separately, and then you have to meet the entry requirements,” she said.. “i know that people are putting the two issues together, but the visa application process and the granting of a visa is very separate to the additional entry requirements that every traveller needs to meet to be able to enter australia.”.

Anony Mous

I already explained the lies surrounding the unvaccinated in hospitals.

Currently in the US approximately 10% of the hospitalizations are due to COVID, if 50% of these are unvaccinated, that would indicate in states like California and New York (where the majority of hospitalizations are) there would be more people in hospitals than there is population, as those states are nearing 97% vaccination and estimated 99% total immunity, especially amongst the vulnerable populations.

Unvaccinated simply means you did not comply with all of the government mandates on a timely basis. You could be vaccinated or have natural immunity and still be considered unvaccinated because your booster was more than 3 months ago.

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Door to door again?

by Zeds Dead in

do you think the jdubs will start up the door whacking again one day?.

there has to be many inside the org that are dreading having to do that again and as for the general public seeing this, it’s hard to imagine.

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Anony Mous

The question is can they.

From what I hear there are a lot more people that show up for the so-called letter writing and telephone witnessing parties than Saturday morning field circus. You pretend to make a few calls and write a few letters you’ll never put in the mail, eat cake and drink coffee while talking loudly with your group. It’s basically the new book study and it is causing more cohesion to the organization as a result.

They may have lucked themselves into the best situation to stop the bleed at least temporarily and become a more mainstream accepted religion, they’ve long been de-emphasizing the craziest parts (blood, 1914, Armageddon) and becoming a boring regular Christian religion.

COVID gives them a good excuse to get rid of many of the extremist Rutherfordian and Franzian practices, including the vaccination policy they are promoting which now gives them a chance to pivot to a more mainstream view on abortion, blood and other medical practices. COVID vaccination production, had it happened ca 1980, if you read the blood brochure and other medical instructions until the early 2000s, would have been considered a violation of all sorts of biblical interpretations of theirs, I clearly remember the elders giving us a list of approved and non-approved vaccines because they used humane or animal blood or aborted fetus in their production, it even listed why we rejected a particular medicine, but the current COVID vaccines all did one or more of those things and they’re just ignoring that fact.